{"id":1575169,"date":"2018-07-26T17:20:58","date_gmt":"2018-07-26T15:20:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/?p=1575169"},"modified":"2024-07-22T11:35:22","modified_gmt":"2024-07-22T09:35:22","slug":"the-raven-symbol-of-fighters-from-poznan-40002-70015","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/blog\/2018\/07\/26\/the-raven-symbol-of-fighters-from-poznan-40002-70015\/","title":{"rendered":"The raven \u2013 symbol of fighters from Pozna\u0144"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Few Polish fighter squadrons had as distinguished and long traditions as 131. Eskadra My\u015bliwska (131. Fighter Squadron) of III\/3 Fighter Wing \u201cThe Ravens\u201d from Pozna\u0144. The squadron was direct successor of the 2. Wielkopolska Eskadra Lotnicza (2<sup>nd<\/sup> Aviation Squadron of Wielkopolska Region), created in the former Imperial Prussian Pozna\u0144-\u0141awica airbase 14<sup>th<\/sup> February 1919, initially as an \u201cmultirole squadron\u201d with Halberstadt Cl.II two-seaters and one Albatros D.III fighter. In 1920 Spring the squadron was re-equipped with factory-fresh Austro-Hungarian Albatros D.III (Oeffag) fighters and was renamed as 13<sup>th<\/sup> Fighter Squadron. The unit participated in two most important, victorious battles of the Polish-Bolshevik 1920 war \u2013 defence of Warsaw in August and final rout of the Soviet armies in September Battle of the Niemen.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-2-web.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575161\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-2-web.jpg\" alt=\"P.11c 131 EM\" width=\"1000\" height=\"481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-2-web.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-2-web-300x144.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-2-web-768x369.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>PZL P.11c of 131. Fighter Squadron, 1938. In September 1939 this plane was flown by Lt. W\u0142odzimierz Gedymin, credited with 3 aerial victories in defence of Poland.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>After the end of the Polish-Bolshevik war the squadron returned to Pozna\u0144, where, together with 15<sup>th<\/sup> Fighter Squadron, was incorporated into newly-created 3<sup>rd<\/sup> Air Regiment. In the following years the squadron was two times re-numbered (initially as 111. Squadron, and finally as 131. Squadron), but continuously served as the same unit. Its initial marking was a red lightning in the white disc, and, after introduction of the unified, geometrical squadron markings in 1928, white bar in a green box.<\/p>\n<p>When, in the beginning of \u201830s, the command allowed for individualized and more complex insignia, the Pozna\u0144 Fighter Wing, equipped at that time with PWS 10 fighters, chose the symbol of raven as a marking of their both squadrons. It is connected with a squadron legend, which we know from the Wac\u0142aw Kr\u00f3l\u2019s account:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>It is said, that when the 131. Squadron has been created in the \u0141awica airbase, its commander had an extraordinary adventure during the first training flight. After uneventful take-off the pilot flew around the city of Pozna\u0144 and then flew to the nearby Kiekrz lake. There, over the forest, his airplane has been attacked by a huge, black raven. The pilot attempted to turn, but was not able to evade the collision with the bird, which stuck between wing struts and wiring. The raven, of course, has been killed, staining the wing with blood, but its legs have stuck between the aileron and the wing which partially blocked the airplane controls. [\u2026] Using only the rudder, the pilot, sweated and shocked, managed to reach the airfield. [\u2026] The raven was impressive and dangerous-looking specimen of its kind. It has frightened the pilot, but made no harm to the Squadron, so it was decided, that the raven would become symbol of the Pozna\u0144 Fighter Squadrons. <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/pws-10-kruki.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575162\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/pws-10-kruki.jpg\" alt=\"PWS-10 - pierwotne wersje pozna\u0144skich kruk\u00f3w\" width=\"1000\" height=\"663\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/pws-10-kruki.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/pws-10-kruki-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/pws-10-kruki-768x509.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>PWS 10 fighters from Pozna\u0144 Squadrons with early raven marking variants. Public Domain, Narodowe Archiwum Cyfrowe collection <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/audiovis.nac.gov.pl\/i\/PIC\/PIC_1-M-1292-11.jpg\"><em>https:\/\/audiovis.nac.gov.pl\/i\/PIC\/PIC_1-M-1292-11.jpg<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While the story includes some mistakes (the Squadron was formed many years before the introduction of the raven marking, the raven was marking of all three Pozna\u0144 fighter squadrons\u2026), it very well summarizes the spirit of unit\u2019s tradition, which survived the defeat in 1939 \u2013 the fighters from Pozna\u0144 continued their gallant fight in the Battle of Britain \u2013 as 302 \u201cPozna\u0144\u201d squadron with the raven as their marking! The mistakes in Wac\u0142aw Kr\u00f3l\u2019s account may be justified with the fact that he knew the story from the second hand, as he was initially pilot of the Krak\u00f3w 2<sup>nd<\/sup> Air Regiment and joined \u201cThe Pozna\u0144 Ravens\u201d already in Britain in September 1940. Soon his connections with Pozna\u0144 pilots became stronger, and in 1943 Autumn he became the commander of the 302 \u201cRaven\u201d squadron.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/133-Eskadra-p7-web.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575163\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/133-Eskadra-p7-web.jpg\" alt=\"PZL P.7a - pozna\u0144ski kruk\" width=\"1000\" height=\"719\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/133-Eskadra-p7-web.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/133-Eskadra-p7-web-300x216.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/133-Eskadra-p7-web-768x552.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>PZL P.7a from Pozna\u0144 with white raven \u2013 133. Fighter Squadron marking. Photo from Janusz Adamczewski collection<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The \u201cRaven from Pozna\u0144\u201d had many variants and for a long time no \u201cofficial\u201d, unified version existed. It was used by all three Pozna\u0144 fighter squadrons: 131., 132., and existing for only a short time 133. Fighter Squadron, later transferred to Lw\u00f3w as 161. Fighter Squadron. Even final versions of the marking had differed not only in colours (131. \u2013 white with red feathers, 132. feathers blue and black, 133. all white), but also in the general design and details.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-3-web.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575164\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-3-web.jpg\" alt=\"P.11c - numer 12\" width=\"1000\" height=\"578\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-3-web.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-3-web-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-3-web-768x444.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>131. Fighter Squadron marking on the airplane of the Squadron or the Wing Command flight (the \u201c12\u201d number is apparently too high for 10-airplane strong Squadron)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Reconstruction of the exact shape of the raven marking used on the 1939 airplanes we performed using few available photographs showing PZL P.11c from 131. Squadron. Its result is a bit different than previously known proposals published in some books or decal sets, but we are convinced that our decal is as close to the original marking of the 131. Squadron as it is possible. In order to make the identification of Squadron easier, 131. Squadron painted the side number in front of the raven, and the 132. Squadron \u2013 behind it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-kruki-web.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575165\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-kruki-web.jpg\" alt=\"rekonstrukcja god\u0142a pozna\u0144kie kruki\" width=\"1000\" height=\"521\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-kruki-web.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-kruki-web-300x156.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/131-Eskadra-kruki-web-768x400.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Close-ups of the photographs we used in reconstruction of the 131. Squadron marking. \u201c1a\u201d it is the most clear and sharp of the available photos. It comes from \u201cwhite 12\u201d airplane. \u201c2\u201d is from the out-of-focus photo of the \u201cwhite 6\u201d from the 131. Squadron from 1938. To make comparison easier we mirrored (both \u201c1a\u201d and \u201c1b\u201d) and made lighter (\u201c1b\u201d) the ravens, which confirms that this is most probably the same marking as on the photo \u201c2\u201d. Final version of the 132. Squadron marking is clearly different in shape and colours.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/132-Eskadra-2-web.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575166\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/132-Eskadra-2-web.jpg\" alt=\"PZL P.11c z krukiem\" width=\"1000\" height=\"423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/132-Eskadra-2-web.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/132-Eskadra-2-web-300x127.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/132-Eskadra-2-web-768x325.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>PZL P.11c of 132. Squadron. Note the number position behind the raven and more dark details (blue and black), clearly different than in the 131. Squadron marking<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>All the photographs of the PZL P.11c airplanes from Dr. Tomasz Kopa\u0144ski collection<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>Pozna\u0144&#8217;s Ravens in model<\/h2>\n<p>Markings of aeroplanes from Pozna\u0144 Fighter Wing 3\/III are available in model kits:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1574194\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"537\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05-300x161.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05-768x412.jpg 768w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/malowanie_05-610x328.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>PZL P.7a, 132. Fighter Squadron from Pozna\u0144<\/strong>. Markings for the mid 1930&#8217;s military manouvers applied with white removable paint. Markings from model kit\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armahobby.com\/pzl-p-7a-deluxe-set-1-72.html?hash=4124d1af9a7ea1f5bece2c836dcc1e82\">PZL P.7a Deluxe Set<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/ah-70015-profile-03.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1575130\" src=\"http:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/ah-70015-profile-03.jpg\" alt=\"p.11c Kruk 4\" width=\"1000\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/ah-70015-profile-03.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/ah-70015-profile-03-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/ah-70015-profile-03-768x384.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>PZL P.11c, 131. Fighter Squadron from Pozna\u0144<\/strong>, in 1939 in \u201ePozna\u0144\u201d Army. After encirclement by the Germans on 17<sup>th<\/sup> September 2<sup>nd<\/sup> Lt. Henryk Bibrowicz (2 victories) and 2<sup>nd<\/sup> Lt.\u00a0 Lech Grzybowski (2 victories) flew this airplane to Ma\u0142aszewicze airbase and left there. After the war outbreak squadron marking on the fuselage and national markings on the wing upper surface overpainted. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armahobby.pl\/70015-pzl-p-11c-expert-set-1-72.html?hash=4124d1af9a7ea1f5bece2c836dcc1e82\">Markings from PZL P.11c Expert Set 1\/72.<\/a> Read Squadron&#8217;s story in 1939 Campaign <a href=\"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/blog\/2018\/07\/23\/p-11c-ravens-over-bzura-river-40002-70015\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Selected bibliography:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Polish Fighter Colours 1939-1947.<\/em> [in English]. Stratus, Sandomierz 2016<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class='et-box et-bio'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class='et-box-content'>Check out <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armahobby.com\/category\/samoloty-pzl?hash=4124d1af9a7ea1f5bece2c836dcc1e82\">PZL model kits<\/a> in Arma Hobby\u00a0<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Few Polish fighter squadrons had as distinguished and long traditions as 131. Eskadra My\u015bliwska (131. Fighter Squadron) of III\/3 Fighter Wing \u201cThe Ravens\u201d from Pozna\u0144. The squadron was direct successor of the 2. Wielkopolska Eskadra Lotnicza (2nd Aviation Squadron of Wielkopolska Region), created in the former Imperial Prussian Pozna\u0144-\u0141awica airbase 14th February 1919, initially as [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":1575893,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[307,184,98,452,205,147,151],"class_list":["post-1575169","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-history","tag-nr40002-en","tag-nr70015-en","tag-scale172-en-2","tag-452","tag-colours-and-markings","tag-pzl-p-11c-en","tag-p-7a-en","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1575169","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/17"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1575169"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1575169\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1595904,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1575169\/revisions\/1595904"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1575893"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1575169"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1575169"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/armahobbynews.pl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1575169"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}